Rational and Logical Debate on Who’s Lives Matter? NOT A CHANCE!

From Gateway Pundit, here.

Young White Mother Killed By Black Lives Matter Mob for Allegedly Saying ‘All Lives Matter,’ National Media Fully Ignores


A 24-year-old mother was killed by a Black Lives Matter mob in Indianapolis last week, allegedly for saying “All Lives Matter.”

Unlike Charlottesville, or any violence from the right, this killing was reported so quietly that barely anyone even noticed.

“According to the victim’s family, the shooting started with an argument over Black Lives Matter and language. Eventually the two sides separated and walked away from each other, until witnesses claim the killer opened fire from a nearby bridge and ran away,” Fox 59 reports.

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“It was squashed and they went up the hill and left we thought, but they were sitting on St. Claire waiting for us to come under the bridge and that’s when she got shot,” the victim’s fiancé Jose Ramirez told the station.

Her grandfather posted on Facebook that “multiple black assailants” shot her in the head.

“Why isn’t anybody outraged about this?” he asked in the post. “Is it that BLM was involved or that it was white young adults that [were] the victims?”

Whitaker leaves behind a three year old son.

“She shouldn’t have lost her life. She’s got a 3-year-old son she loved dearly,” said Ramirez.

Her father, Robert Doty, told the Gateway Pundit that the BLM supporters had walked by her and her fiance and said “Black Lives Matter,” to which Jessica responded that “All Lives Matter.”

The BLM activists had allegedly pulled out weapons during the argument, which prompted Ramirez to do the same. This lead to them backing off, but not for long.

“An argument started and guns came out, but they worked things out. Unfortunately, they didn’t drop it and waited for them to walk back through and she was shot in the head,” Doty told TGP.

Doty confirmed that neither CNN nor Fox News has reached out for information about the case, despite the murderer being on the loose.

When asked how the family is holding up, Doty said “one day at a time is all we can do.”

Her sister Jennifer told TGP that they were walking the canal with friends after an “awesome” Fourth of July celebration. She said that Jessica was shot three times, in the head and leg.

“It’s heartwrenching to watch my mother explain to my three year old nephew that mommy is an angel in heaven,” Jennifer told TGP, adding “and him ask when we can go get her and bring her back.”

Jennifer told TGP that her sister was a Certified Nursing Assistant doing home health care and getting ready to go back to school to become a registered nurse.

“Her son was her world, she had the kindest heart and was in no way racist towards anyone,” Jennifer told TGP.

Ramirez says that the hardest part has been explaining to her son Greyson that his mother will not be coming back.

“It’s hard to tell him his mom is in heaven and if you want to talk to her you have to look up and say, ‘I love you mom,’” said Ramirez.


“We’re going through a lot. The 3-year-old boy doesn’t even understand really,” said Ramirez. “I just want justice for Jessica and her son and her family.”

Police are still looking for suspects and have released a video from the area of the murder.

Anyone with information about the shootings is asked to call  the IMPD Homicide Office at 317.327.3475 or Crime Stoppers of Central Indiana at 317.262.8477 or (TIPS).

GoFundMe has been launched to help pay for her funeral and take care of her young son.

4 thoughts on “Rational and Logical Debate on Who’s Lives Matter? NOT A CHANCE!

  1. Joe Fahy

    So many things went wrong before the shooting. Their situational awareness was maxed out at negative infinity. A single mom with a three year old child at home, and you want to get into a verbal contest with a group known for cowardly violence? You think you’re going to change their minds about “The Other” with three words? Are you fucking kidding me!! But you decided to let your mouth write a check your ass couldn’t cover, so… Why aren’t there any BLM thugs sporting toe tags at the morgue, or at least a couple with MGSW and handcuffed to a bed at the hospital? The article stated Ramirez had a firearm. No mention of Ramirez being shot or otherwise incapacitated.

    It’s a shame. But it could have been avoided so many times. As a last chance to save themselves from this foreseeable, almost inevitable, trauma, why when firearms had been drawn but not used, didn’t they get the fuck out of there asap? My compassion for the willfully stupid is gone. I pray the child has more intelligent, capable and loving teachers in his future.

  2. Defensive Training Group Post author

    So being murdered is the victim’s fault here? Have to be quiet because violence might ensue? The incident was over; both parties had walked – one set up an ambush later. This is not the victim’s fault; this is premeditated murder – malice aforethought.

    Apparently your compassion for rape victims would be likewise gone. “She shouldn’t have worn that dress/top; she had it coming” kinda thing?

    Have you considered that they may not have been ‘willfully stupid,’ at all, but possibly, ‘willfully hopeful’ and ignorant of good ambush sites on their planned walk? Have you considered that this was in no way, shape, or form, the victim’s ‘fault’?

    The fault lies with the perps who decided they would have the last word and kill the idea in the mind of the victim, with malicious intent. Now, if ‘law enforcement’ will do their jobs and pick up the pieces, find the perps, and put them in jail, we’ll be good. Most likely won’t happen, but one can hope.

  3. Joe Fahy

    In this case the victims, Ms. Whitaker and Mr. Ramirez, did assist in Ms. Whitaker’s murder. In the criminal’s mind, she caused her murder as the BLM VCAs were both disrespected and challenged by the couple. Fucked up rules, but those are the VCAs rules.

    The BLM are Violent Criminal Actors, from Dr. William Aprill’s definitions used at his course “Unthinkable.” From his interviews with VCAs in prison, the two primary ways normal, not criminal, people end up injured or dead when interacting with a VCA is to a) Disrespect the VCA or b) Challenge the VCA. Ms. Whitaker says: “All lives matter” in response to ‘black lives matter’, put a check in box a). Mr. Ramirez pulls a gun, even in self defense, yep, put a check in box b). Ms. Whitaker and Mr. Ramirez were going to get hurt by BLM, just a matter of When, Where and How.

    Criminals DO NOT think like us and whatever low self inhibition discipline they possess has been drastically reduced with the allowed, even encouraged, criminal insurrection ongoing in the U.S.A.

    I also hold Mr. Ramirez at primary fault for assisting in Ms. Whitaker’s murder, as he did not execute his patriarchal duty to protect Ms. Whitaker. There were multiple assailants against Mr. Ramirez, his duty was to move Ms. Whitaker to a safe location. His continuing on their planned walk is the height of stupid machismo which put them into an ambush.

    Getting a couple of these VCAs off the streets into a jail won’t do a damn thing, they’re thousands of them and I don’t want to support any of them. But giving them a dirt nap, now we’re talking justice.

    We are at war with these VCA fuckers. We better understand VCAs do not think or react like normal people.

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