Years ago I used to have a very, very accurate Remington 700 Sendero in .300 Win Mag. I sold it some years ago and replaced it with a Savage 10 with the 4-14 ACSS scope in 7.62 NATO. While I miss the long range accuracy of that .300 Win, I’ve not been disappointed with the Savage.
Two weeks ago I took it to a square indoor range and put 30 rounds down the tube to see what kind of groups I might expect without making any adjustments to the rifle or glass. The only ammo I had on had was some Fiocchi 165gr Sierra HPBT Game King, which is a great hunting round. I’m fond of the 165gr as a general purpose bullet as it performs very well out to about 700m, and the Game King is designed as a purposeful hollow point.
I was ok with the results; best group, once it was sighted in, was just about an inch at 50m; so 2 inches at 100 is fine for hunting, however, my projected application for the Savage is to distract and disrupt a ‘zombie apocalypse’ against my neighborhood.
As I hadn’t shot this rifle, admittedly, I did things backwards. All I did to prep it was to patch the barrel and check the optics for solid mounting. After I shot it and came home, I took it completely apart, cleaned it, and then used a torque driver to tighten the action screws to the recommended inch pound setting from Savage.
I went back to a square outdoor range with 3 different brands of ammunition in two weights: 168 & 175gr – two with Sierra HPBT Matchking projectiles and one set with Berger projectiles.
All shots from the bench, cool to warm barrel, no cleaning between groups, 100 meters, temperature around 80f, partly cloudy, humidity about 75%.
Suffice it to say that the results, with much higher quality ammunition and having the rifle prepped made quite the difference!
This is the result:
This was the most accurate (and most expensive) rounds used in my Inherent Accuracy Test, Phase 1. As you can see, it’s pretty good ammo. The small squares are 1/4 inch X 1/4 inch, and this is a really good just under or at 1/2 inch group. The Berger rounds use the best of everything, to include Lapua brass, match projectiles, special power blends, and match primers. It shows. But they’re spendy. Between $1.30 and $1.50 a round, depending on where you get them, and that doesn’t include shipping! Add another .40 to .60 a round after shipping. Sometimes you can get free shipping if you buy lots of 200 rounds. That may come later for me if I choose these as my primary, but even so, they’re expensive! That’s about $30 a box or more.
Next up is Federal Gold Medal 308 Winchester 175gr Sierra HPBT Match King. This group was just over a half inch but under 3/4’s of an inch. The price point difference between this and the Berger is significant, at about $7 a box cheaper than the Berger. The Federal rounds are also top quality, with the same Sierra bullet, ‘virgin’ brass (so described by Federal) proprietary powder mix, and really consistent primers.
The Federal is less expensive by quite a bit, ranging from .92 to $1.70 per round (this price had a free shipping note so long as you purchase 200 rounds). The range is a lot wider, but at the least expensive end, adding shipping to the cost makes it about $1.50 or so a round, or $25 a box, and with the eye of a coupon shopper, you can probably get these for less than $20 a box, shipped.
Last, but certainly not least, as the ammo is MOA capable, is Fiocchi’s submission to the 175gr match market. Titled, ‘Fiocchi Exacta Rifle Match,’ it’s performance was acceptable, though a bit disappointment as it is about the same price as the Federal, which performed clearly better in this test.
I have some IMI 175gr BTHP SMK OTM Razor Core Match coming, so this portion of the test won’t be complete until that gets expended.
After the 175gr performance comparison is complete, I’m going to do 168 gr as well, same brands (except Berger, as they don’t make 168’s), same conditions as much as possible. I’m including the 168’s as potential ‘go to’ ammo as I was weaned on them back in the day, and I wouldn’t fee right not giving them a chance.
WRSA’s post, here.
Now, truth be told, I don’t think this has a chance in hell of passing both chambers of Congress. However, I do think this is a trial balloon, to see where and who might resist this are, and of what party (yes, even some democrats would not sign on to this). Even if it was unanimous in the House and Senate, and the President signed it, enforcing it would be the mother of all conflagrations. At least, in my opinion. But, you should read it to see what they’re up to….
Me? I’ve read it, and I’m headed to the range tomorrow. With a bolt gun, and an AR, and a pistol, AND a revolver. Be there most of the day. I hope you do the same.
“I know you all don’t want to read this but you should. It’s not an Assault Weapons Ban it’s a complete GUN BAN.
My sources the Corporation is desperate & expect a Big False Flag when school starts to spark the Safety & Welfare of Children just like Germany.
Remington 870 Shotgun & Remington R700 Bolt Action are included it’s a complete irradication of all guns. In other words it’s UN Gun Ban …
The so-called ‘small arms expert,’ here, as noted in “The Rundown” linked from “The Woodpile Report,” here, is either an idiot, or has had his interview quotes thoroughly taken out of context through selective editing to increase the sensationalization to make him purposely look like an idiot. If the latter was the goal, the reporter succeeded.
The Navy vet quoted in the piece claims the Dayton shooter (self-identified as ANTIFA) was using an illegally modified AR15 turning it into a SBR (Short Barreled Rifle) which are, in fact, illegal to own unless registered with the BATFE with the appropriate tax paid and owner background checks completed. Right up front in the article the ‘small arms expert’ is shown to have very little ‘expertise’ by the first quote:
“A pistol/rifle hybrid is completely illegal on every level,” Jack Maxey told The Rundown. “It’s clearly illegal in its current configuration.”
In a word, “NONSENSE!”
It was used illegally to murder people, but as it’s configured, it’s pretty safe to say that it was built as an AR pistol.
So, as quoted, the ‘expert’ obviously NEVER heard of or has seen an AR PISTOL. Mr. Maxey, if quoted incorrectly, should demand a retraction and subsequent correction, and if quoted correctly, take a firearms identification course and apologize to, ‘The Run Down.’
In the photo released by the Dayton PD, the firearm is easily identified as an AR pistol by ID of the Shockwave Blade Pistol Stabilizer in conjunction with the apparent 10.5″ barrel, which further indicates the configuration as an AR pistol, NOT an SBR, at least by appearances. The only way it can be judged as a SBR is to see if the lower receiver was registered as a ‘pistol receiver.’ If it wasn’t, then it’s a SBR; if it was, it’s an AR Pistol.
Additionally, stabilizers, such as the one in the crime photo, cannot be installed on AR 15 carbines or rifles, because the installation shortens the overall length of the firearm below the legal minimums, again, making it a SBR.
The stabilizer itself sells for under $25 at most major firearms accessory retailers, and the one in the photo is thusly described: “The Shockwave Technologies Blade Pistol Stabilizer is a lightweight, ergonomic, BATFE approved AR-15 pistol enhancement. This high-strength polymer brace fits all pistols equipped with a standard AR-15 pistol buffer tube (up to 1.25″ in diameter), for a secure, worry-free fit.”
Again, AR pistols are completely LEGAL so long as the owner registers it as a pistol when he or she meets the legal requirements to own it and follows their state protocol for registration when taking possession through a licensed FFL, who, by the way, is not going to risk legal jeopardy themselves by allowing a SBR to be possessed by a prospective owner that doesn’t have the appropriate clearance and approval.
Once the lower is registered as a pistol receiver, it cannot legally have a rifle upper installed on it without having the legal description changed from pistol to rifle, and then again, the owner must have BATFE notification of intent to change the designation and with their approval. If the AR Pistol owner doesn’t jump through those hoops and installs a rifle upper on the pistol lower, or installs a rifle stock on the pistol lower, he or she has just converted a legal pistol to an illegal SBR.
From what I understand, it’s a PITA to jump through all the hoops to get an AR Pistol lower reclassified, being much easier to simply buy a new lower and build a new AR carbine/rifle.
H/T Aesop, @ Raconteur Report.
Original posted @ The LawDog Files
SUNDAY, AUGUST 04, 2019
Let me stop you right there, Scooter …
These are folks what don’t like me for various reasons — because I’m a cop, or I’m conservative, or a gun-owner, or former military, or whatever — but who don’t have the common courtesy to sod off to someplace else that they’ll be more appreciated.
Mostly because I don’t hear from them until some deviant no-account little pismire decides to cash in his voucher for 15 minutes of fame, said voucher being backed and guaranteed by the US Mainstream Media.
80 million American gun owners didn’t murder anyone.