17 comments on “SHTF Kit Planning: What to Have and Why – Part I

  1. I think what confuses people about the function of the BOB is that it often is thought of as an INCH (I”m Not Coming Home) bag. The BOB helps you get to your destination, the INCH is your home is where you lay your pack down.

    Looking forward to the comments and list of items – thanks for writing it.

  2. Awesome article.
    Thank you.

    Could you publish Part 2 as soon as you can, please?

    Eagerly awaiting…

    Thank you!

  3. Nice job! About time someone wrote a common sense article on bug out bags.
    I like Danner boots as well,that’s what I wear most of hunting season,got a pair of Cabela’s brand for the really cold days-hard to tell who made them-my guess is Irish Setter or Danner.
    It’s amazing how far insulation tech has come in recent years,the boots the Cabela’s brand replaced were Rocky brand with 1,000 grams of Thinsulate, bought in 2002-the insulation is more than twice as thick on the old boots.
    Looking forward to part 2.

  4. Nice.
    I’ve got a thought about load outs though.
    But first, is it just America that has the idea that the world is going to go all Mad Max 24/7?
    ’cause what you are loading for is bear and to live you don’t eat bear everyday mostly small game.

    As for fighting off the evil hoards, realistically?
    If you turn a corner into a seething mass of zombies, or get caught out in the open by a gang of well armed marauders? Your survival odds would be ??

    Besides that.
    I’m for quantity over quality because resupply will become a nightmare over time.
    Take the humble .22 LR.
    As a man stopper it does lack clout BUT you can carry a hell of a lot of ammo in the same space.
    Semi auto’s are generally lighter and smaller.
    Even thinking gain over effort, using one of your precious (and I’m not being funny) 5.56 or 9 mm NATO is just expensive overkill for small game.

    The argument will be that this is a BOB.
    A bug out bag not an INCH (i’m never coming home).
    So be it. Yet to bug out means to transit to a place.
    Which might not be there when you arrive or you find it stripped.
    Your BOB now changing to an INCH in an instant.
    What price 200 rounds of whatever to a 1000 rounds of 22LR then?

  5. We don’t necessarily believe that the world is going to go, ‘all Mad Max 24/7’, but do believe the level of lawless activity will probably rise to the level that leaving one’s home to move to a different safe area would be prudent. We fully appreciate the venerable .22 caliber in its various loads, and use them for exactly the purpose you describe. We’re not to the point of discussing food gathering tools in the series yet, so be patient.

    As for defending a family or small group against marauders, escalating to a ‘horde’ and then begging the question, ‘why fight, you’re going to lose anyway’ with the implication of very low survival odds, even for dramatic purposes, is pretty much disingenuous. Here’s why: First, everyone’s survival odds are lowered in a WROL/SHTF situation. There will be a very small chance of ‘good guys’ with lights and sirens coming to the rescue. The chances of not surviving are heightened even more if the scenario discussed includes failure of the electrical grid for more than a week. Additionally, your question is not realistic because of the many factors you do not address that are left to the reader’s imagination. Factors such as: number of trained adults on the team, level of small unit tactics training for the members, the morale of the team itself, terrain features, time of day (day/night), weather, distance from a friendly position, number of the bad guys, etc. Every single one of those factors can and is going to have an impact on what happens. Something else to consider: DTG and others teach that the primary defense for a small group (NPT) is to ‘avoid contact,’ and in order to do that, one must be well-trained in how to do so.

    That aside, the point of the series is to look at the subject objectively, so that when someone decides to plan, they can do so without having to swim through the ocean of marketing regarding ‘Ultimate BOB’s’ that won’t help.

    Glad you took the time to read and stop by.

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  8. those non combat rucks are not designed to be in prone position. the top of the ruck prevents the back of your head from moving rearward. i had to modify one in the past.

  9. Thanks for stopping by! You speak the truth on the non-combat designed rucks; it’s why we recommend finding or having some quick release buckles installed. Even with a ‘combat’ ruck with the capability of quick release, one does not engage with a ruck, one drops to the ground, hits the quick release, and gets out from under it. Leastwise, that’s how I was taught back in the day when having a dual quick release on our ALICE packs was ‘all the rage.’ Great consideration for folks to think on….

  10. I have the same model Danners you show, Uncle Sugar gave me 2 pairs (for free!) when I went over to Afghanistan. They last and last and last! I’ve never had a boot last this many miles with more still to go! They are also impervious to water and mud (provided it doesn’t go over the top).

    The only things I will say negative about them is they are “Oh My God I want to die” heavy (price you pay for durability), they are almost unbearably hot in the summer (price you pay for absolute waterproofness), and if you are someone who likes to blouse your pants into your boots….well good luck with these. You could still tuck your pants into your calf length socks and get the same level of tick/other critter protection but you’ll lose some cool points over being able to look tacticool having your pants tucked into other taller combat boot options. Another great option I have been using all last fall and winter is the Salomon Quest 4D GTX, I went with the black civilian version but they also sell a cool guy military version with no reflective surfaces.

  11. Thanks for dropping by! Appreciate the experience sharing…yeah, they’re heavier than some I’ve worn, but right out of the chute they were extremely comfortable. Disclaimer: I put some ‘SOF Sole’ ultra soles in them and changed out the lacing to 550 cord. I also don’t lace the cushioned top.

    As for blousing, only when I’ve got boots with an 8 inch shaft, minimum. Otherwise, we use LOTS of permetherin and bug juice.

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  16. I saw this article recently at JD’s site.Seems from photos the Denners a glued sole(am I wrong?),if so,not for me.I have spent extensive time/money,heck,me kingdom on a good pair of boots(I do have a 40 year old mint pair of Denners from grandpa,he never used that pair,wear once a month to keep broken in and ready),seen a pair like that listed for 400 on the bay but would never sell!

    Enter the Red Wing 206,a little over 200 a pair with coupon,I work construction with em daily including ladder/stairclimbs/digging ect.I have also hiked em 20 with me Molle and am in love.With a decent wool sock have kept me feet toasty in New England weather and not too hot in summer,and,they have a replaceable Vibram stitch on sole.I will get a extra pair when soles get to halfway mark as will not live without em!These are for lack of a better word my daily carry boots and could not be happier.They also gaureented for life except the sole,including laces which are excellent laces.Tis rare I go on about a product but this one at least for me is the pinnacle of a long searchthough still love me grandpa’s Denners left to me,they are the end of the world boot for me.

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