12 comments on “Essential Skills: Live Fire

  1. Pingback: DTG: Live Fire – An Essential Skill | Western Rifle Shooters Association

  2. Forgive my ignorance, but can you please explain (or provide a link for) the AQT? Many thanks.

  3. Sure, we’d be happy to! You can get these targets very inexpensively at Fred’s m14 sight. Google it, it’s easy to find. The explanation for the course of fire are on the targets themselves. You can run them at 25 meters for both 762 + 556.

    Thanks for stopping by!

  4. Very good, and thank you! I piped off with the question a little too soon; easily found online.

  5. Having personally run through more than a couple of DTG’s marksmanship variations/iterations I’ve observed the following about the AQT:

    1. “No Range Bench” Marksmanship – The average class attendee is challenged to score 135 or above. The average class attendee has much difficulty attaining a 175 (even without PT prior to the shoot).

    2. Adrenaline – With the addition of right kind of PT immediately prior to shooting this course of fire, I’m not going to say how many folks are lucky to score an 80 (well below failing). As history has shown, most don’t shoot so well after simulating the adrenaline surge and heart rate of ‘mexican stand-off’ – even the ones in shape (although the people out of shape suffer many more clean misses).

    3. Target ID: When I was in class (still am actually – every. Single. Day.) – you shoot someone else’s target, you both are DQ’d. “But that’s not fair!” . . . Life ain’t fair . . . especially for the innocent person that gets shot (SHTF or regular self-defense situation) who wasn’t properly identified. Every round is the responsibility of the sender. So this course of fire requires shooters to demonstrate target identification when you have multiple shooters online: shooting at targets that look just like the guy’s targets next to him – well let’s just say guys get pissed when you screw up a good score on a good training session. Shooting the 2nd round of fire under time does no good if you get DQ’d because you failed to take an extra fraction of a second to properly ID your paper bad guy.

    What I like about the AQT referenced in this article is that you can run it pretty “vanilla” for shooters who are new to training for self-defense, or you can ramp up the difficulty to challenge skilled folks.

    This is strictly my observation, not necessarily anyone else – Kevin Hart said “everybody wants to be famous, but nobody wants to do the work” before every comedy show he does – Same thing – everybody wants to do fire and maneuver, but nobody wants to do marksmanship.

  6. Better yet, sign up for an Appleseed event near you and spend two days working on your square range fundamentals. You can probably talk the shoot boss out of a few of our AQTs for follow up work. Appleseed, reviving our shared American heritage of marksmanship. Join us if you can and bring someone with you. Friends, wives, girlfriends and
    /or children. If they can be safe on our line, all are welcome.

    Corvette, Appleseed Shoot Boss, Ohio

  7. My appologies, didn’t mean to sound competitive with your offerings. I saw our targets in the photo and just wanted to offer Appleseed as a great place to start training efforts in preparation for more advanced live fire training with others like your group. The more we all share our skills with our fellow countrymen, the safer lady Liberty will be in this great land.


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