20 comments on “UPDATED: So, What Do We Do If We’re Ambushed?

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  2. That’s all fine and well for fire and movement, but to get up in the face of heavy incoming fire (“I’m up…he see’s me…) is ensuring you’ll definitely be down….permanently.

    Just sayin’

  3. Wishing everyone an under-trained, under-strength, and under-prepared enemy while you are being ambushed. 😉

    What happened to the tactical retreat as a response to contact or ambush? “patrol being destroyed” is unacceptable, and if they clean up, prepares the ground for the next patrol to do it again without info (other than “where is Beta team?”).

    Without air/artillery support, or a big force behind you, rescue seems unlikely. Self-rescue will be the new norm. Try not to get destroyed. Supper at 5:30.

  4. Thanks for the well-wishes! Same to you!

    The tactical retreat, or even a delaying action (trading space for time) is a very appropriate reaction to contact, especially in a SHTF/RWOL situation, because you are exactly right: The patrol being destroyed is unacceptable, and that’s the point: Upright charge drills yelling and screaming firing in the general direction of the enemy mean certain death and patrol destruction in most cases unless they are right on top of you…meaning less than 10 meters (the typical interval between two men in broken terrain)…and you have no choice. Even then it’s going to be ‘iffy’, and hopefully, your folks outside the KZ will flank and engage long enough for those in the KZ to withdraw.

    Your last point: ‘Try not to get destroyed’ is what it’s all about. Bourbon at 1900. 🙂

  5. “No consideration is given to the very real possibility that the
    patrol may have encountered an enemy LP, OP, sentry post, or prepared
    perimeter defensive position. ”

    Exactly. The training is simply to give you something to do when lead
    starts flying. Remember the old saying, “No good battle plan survives
    first contact with the enemy.”
    You are operating on pure muscle memory, especially inexperienced
    troops. Command figures they may as well train them to do something so
    they don’t just freeze. Sometimes they might just get lucky and do
    what works.
    In my experience, if you are within grenade throwing range and if you
    know the force you are facing and if there are no flanking options an
    assault through ambush might work. You will most likely sustain
    casualties so you need to decide if it will be worth it. It all
    depends on the mission profile and whether the benefit outweighs the risk.

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  7. i think the best you can do is drop, take cover to live, observed the situation, if you noticed where the fires come from, throw a grenades and return fire to make your team recover.

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  9. Grenades…
    When I was a little younger and a lot dumber (not claiming to be S-M-R-T yet) I picked up a black hawk vest at a gun show. Picking out magazine pouches, the guy showed me one that held 5 ar mags and had two pouches on each side. “What are those for?” “Grenades.” “But I don’t have any grenades, so those would be kind of useless for me.” “Sure, you don’t have any NOW, but you could come across them one day.”

    And I have! I found one the other day, its on a plaque with a label, “Complaint Department, take a number.” With the “1” being behind the pin. Funny!

    But with the darn plaque mounted I don’t think it’ll fit in the pouch. Plus, how am I going to get somebody to take that number when it lands? Tell him the thing is full of chocolate?

    Blatant wise-assery aside, this is one of my “bookmarks”, so whenever I see a post, I know it’ll have some wisdom inside.

  10. Back in Vietnam, the Cong would plan an ambush along a trail, set up their fire side and mine the other side. Typical response would be to get away from the fire, jump into the mines. Troops started to learn to “run to the roar”. Charge the ambush while attempting to gain fire superiority. Fool hardy? Maybe. Ammo costly? You bet. Possible death vs sure death? You decide.

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